Uplifting interview with Bishop Steven Lopes on Salt and Light’s “Witness” programme

This is an interview which all Ordinarians and other interested persons should watch. Bishop Lopes explains very eloquently what the Ordinariates are all about.

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3 Responses to Uplifting interview with Bishop Steven Lopes on Salt and Light’s “Witness” programme

  1. godfrey1099 has written:
    “I’ve just watched Bishop Lopes’ interview for the Canadian Salt and Light TV.

    The statistics stated around 12.30 of the video material have come as a shock for me!
    I’m an incurable optimist, but I would never imagine that the CSP Ordinariate has already grown that much.
    Only a year or two ago, the numbers cited oscillated around 2,000 – 2,500 at the best.
    Now, we know first hand that there are 68 priests and… 8,000 (sic!) canonical members alone!
    That means much more, if cradle Catholics actually attending Ordinariate parishes are included.
    That’s a fantastic growth rate – contrary to what all those malcontents have predicted.

    It means that the Ordinariates taken together are already bigger than some Eastern Catholic Churches (of less than 10,000 faithful).

    Ordinariates are definitely a prophetic development, God’s work and ecumenism realised (which BTW is how I’ve always taken the “ecumenism in the front row” phrase, so much discussed on this blog recently), and as such I’m sure they have an even brighter future.

    I am so happy the year ends with such glorious news!”

    • Rev22:17 says:


      Yes, this news clip from Salt and Light Television (SLTV) is very encouraging, and it will do much to silence the naysayers! The figure of eight thousand registered (official) members also caught me by surprise. I have long suspected that the previous publicly stated estimates — which came from speculation in the absence of real news — were well short of the truth, but I had no evidence to substantiate that suspicion.

      There’s also a transcript of another interview with Bishop Lopes on the web site of the National Catholic Register (NCR) that contains substantial complementary, and equally encouraging, information with respect to vocations. In the NCR transcript, Bishop Lopes said that the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter now has four celibate seminarians, three more celibate candidates who are in discussions with him about beginning seminary in the fall of 2017, and “ten or eleven” married former Anglican clergy who are now in formation for Catholic ordination. These numbers are clearly sufficient to replace the ordinariate clergy who are nearing the ordinariate’s retirement age.

      I also found the ordinary’s answers to questions pertaining to what constitutes Anglican patrimony — and they really do reflect the discussions that have taken place in this forum in the past. He states that the distinctive liturgy is one very obvious element, but goes on to say that there are many elements that are not so obvious. The comment that caught my attention in the SLTV interview was the importance of the personal character of relationships between clergy and parishioners, and the input ordinariate clergy that they would prefer to build more rather than larger to preserve those close relationships — a very different approach from that of many Catholic dioceses! Here in the States, the Diocese of Fresno has just 43 parishes serving 1,200,000 parishioners (an average of 27,907 parishioners per parish) and the Diocese of Orange has just 57 parishes serving over 1,300,000 parishioners (an average of 23,145 parishioners per parish). None of the ordinariate congregations are anywhere close to that size! And the good bishop said, in the NCR interview, that many of the significant elements of Anglican patrimony will come to light only after serious reflection on their experience.

      The NCR interview also contains a significant item with respect to the Divine Worship liturgy. Bishop Lopes stated that a draft for a Divine Worship rite for the divine office had been in Rome for some time and that a couple parishes of the Ordinariate of St. Peter are now using it on a “beta test” basis, but that there is no information as to when it might be promulgated. The bishop also stated that this rite is a single volume that contains everything except the readings from scripture, and thus must be used in conjunction with a bible.

      Overall, this is very, very encouraging!


  2. EPMS says:

    Certainly the numbers are sufficient to replace retiring clergy, and yet as we have discussed before, it seems difficult to deploy clergy to communities which require them. The OCSP already has at least thirteen active priests not working with any Ordinariate group, while some groups are without clerical leadership or relying on a diocesan priest. Part of this is related to family issues, part to financial resources, part to a combination of the two.

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